Who would have thought that steel boxes with guns would endure as the stalwart of the battlefield for over a hundred years? Even in today’s era of drones and cyber warfare, the tank’s ability to pack a huge punch at up to 3000 metres means it is still the most reliable and durable weapon in the military toolbox. In this thrilling conversation, former tank commander Hamish de Bretton-Gordon OBE and James Holland embark on a unique and timely exploration of the evolution of the tank, on and off the battlefield. From the MARK IV at the battle of Cambrai to the Challenger 2 in Ukraine, discover the characters who sat at the helm of these iron chariots, the innovators who ensure the tank’s prominence, and its critical role in modern warfare, whether in the Gulf (where Hamish served) or on the new Ukrainian and Russian front lines.